METRO Magazine Logo
MenuMENU
SearchSEARCH

5 Questions: MCI's Patrick Scully

Began his career in the bus business when he joined Ontario Bus Industries, later acquired by Daimler Buses, as a sales representative in its service parts department. Was recently named as MCI's new executive VP, sales and marketing.

by Alex Roman, Managing Editor
April 24, 2013
5 Questions: MCI's Patrick Scully

 

7 min to read



Patrick Scully began his career in the bus business when he joined Ontario Bus Industries, later acquired by Daimler Buses, as a sales representative in its service parts department. He transitioned to the bus sales team at Orion in 1991, becoming general sales manager in 1993, and then, joined Detroit Diesel Corp. in 1994, where he quickly became VP, worldwide bus and coach sales. When Detroit Diesel sold to Daimler in 2001, he joined its Setra division, where he eventually served as chief commercial officer. Motor Coach Industries (MCI) recently named Scully as its new executive VP, sales and marketing.

What are your responsibilities, and how has the transition gone thus far?
It has been awesome. From a responsibility standpoint, I have all the sales and marketing activities for our coach product. We’ve unified our sales teams under one cohesive group, with one key new coach sales contact representing MCI and Setra brands to both private and public sector customers. I’m honored to be leading such an experienced and dedicated MCI sales team.

Ad Loading...

With the transition of the Setra business to MCI, it has been a very good fit across the board. I have always had a fair level of admiration for MCI as I managed them as an account back in the 1990s when I worked with Detroit Diesel. The areas of entrepreneurialism; an extremely high level of professionalism; and the essence of trust, leadership and vision are exemplified within the organization and espoused by Rick Heller, our president, as well as our owners, KPS Capital Partners LP. It is really a great company and I am proud to be part of it.

Whether it is our public sector business or the private sector business, we are making great strides in the market with our product introductions, regaining market share in the private side and, quite frankly, continuing to deliver best in-class products in both the private and public markets.

What are some reasons for public transportation’s recent steady growth and how can the industry keep it up?
If I can sum it up in a word, it is professionalism. Not that it didn’t exist before, but it has really been optimized over the last 10 to 15 years as operators have become more professional in the image they put on the street. Whether it’s making sure vehicles and systems run on time, providing information systems to customers for on-time arrival of bus stops or trains, fare systems that make it simple to get on and off, or solving security concerns at virtually every rail platform and on every bus, there is just a significantly higher level of professionalism that exists both on the operations and supply sides. The products we provide, whether it is buses, railcars, or any other piece of equipment or components, continue to get better and better and that manifests itself in a very desirable product people can count on.

At the same time, you have these macroeconomic issues that are happening, whether it’s fuel prices or the economy itself, which tends to move people in one direction or another to use public transportation. When they do use public transportation and see that it’s a great product that arrives and gets you to where you want to go on time, and often allows you to be productive while you are on your way, that all lends itself to people seeing public transportation in a very positive light.

You then also have to balance all of that against the generation of 20 year olds that are coming into the workforce, many of which don’t want to drive a car for various reasons. So, these various paths converge in the form of increased ridership.

The future looks positive. The industry now has to make sure it continues with that same level of professionalism. Things such as fuel prices are a tipping point, and we will see how that goes in the future, but it certainly bodes well with the improvements and professionalism that exists in the industry. [PAGEBREAK]

Ad Loading...



What can the public and private sectors do to ensure Congress is aware of the benefits of public transit?
We are in a tough way. You have a lot of activity happening in Washington with the budget and sequestration, et cetera, which we all see daily and, whether it is us or every other piece of the government that gets funded, it is really tough. The biggest thing we all can do, every member of our public transportation community, is get yourself up to Capitol Hill and see your congressional representative.

One of the things we have tried to do is tell all of our business members to not be shy, because those are your people that you elected and they have constituents to answer to, and those constituents are the people that we employ. The biggest benefit we have, whether it is a light rail line that springs up, or the commercial or housing developments around it, are so many success stories showing public transportation has a high return on investment and our congressional representatives need to know these facts.

What criteria and data are important for transit properties to continue to run efficiently today? Have these changed from 10 or so years ago?
At least as it relates to running rolling stock, I think there has been much more focus on total cost of ownership. When I started, the typical procurement methodology tended to be the lowest bid wins; you met the spec, you had the low price and away we go. Now, it is much more detailed — let’s call it scientific — where you don’t only look at just the capital cost of an acquisition but at all of the costs involved, including maintenance and parts, in the 12 years or so that you are running the vehicle. At times, it is not necessarily the least expensive vehicle that gets you the lowest cost over the 12 years.

What trends are you seeing in the vehicle market right now? Will use of natural gas and diesel-electric hybrid powertrains grow?
Starting in about 2005, hybrids started to generate significant interest that peaked around 2011. What has transpired is, first, there are a lot of benefits to a hybrid bus, but you can’t necessarily run it in all applications; hybrids typically have their benefits in a slower speed operation, but they also come at a cost. The industry has done a very good job of deploying hybrid buses. The reliability has been improved and optimized and that sends a real positive message. That said, hybrids are now stabilized at a level that is maybe at 25% of the market.

Now, we have natural gas. In the early 90s there was a fair bit of activity for alternative fuels including natural gas. Over the past 20 years, that powertrain option has really stabilized, and from a reliability or an engine standpoint, they have gotten over some of those early challenges with reliability and durability of components.

We have also found new ways of getting natural gas out of the ground here in the U.S., and therefore, have seen an increased demand in areas where natural gas is more prevalent, including Pennsylvania, Texas and some of the Midwest. Then, there is also what has been happening in California, where natural gas, in some areas, is being favored due to the activities of the California Air Resources Board. Overall, we are seeing more and more people taking a look at natural gas and examining its use with an understanding of the total cost of ownership, because not only do you need a bus with different systems on it, but you also need a fueling station. For all these reasons, we are seeing natural gas fueled vehicles increasing in demand in the market.   

The other things playing into decision criteria for rolling stock are things like safety. We are certainly seeing that in the private sector with seat belts and so on. And, as we look at our product from a commuter bus segment, the issue of safety of our product and using a high-floor bus at higher speed on the highways tends to be a more desirable objective than other options. At the same time, transit properties are looking for reliable and stable business partners and all those tie in to what we do at MCI and we are proud to be part of this exciting industry.

Subscribe to Our Newsletter

More Bus

Turning Transportation Challenges into Opportunities
Management•by Alex Roman•October 22, 2026

Brian Dickson on Building Stronger, More Resilient Transportation Organizations

Bus Business Consultants Founder Brian Dickson discusses the leadership principles, operational discipline, and strategic planning that separate transportation companies positioned for long-term success from those stuck in survival mode.

Read More →
Groundbreaking ceremony for LA Metro's Vermont Transit Corridor BRT
Bus•by Staff and News Reports•October 22, 2026

LA Metro Breaks Ground on Vermont BRT Project

The 12.4-mile corridor is projected to serve 66,200 daily riders, reduce travel times by up to 24%, and create the nation's busiest bus rapid transit corridor.

Read More →
ABC Companies President and CEO Roman Cornell
Bus•by Alex Roman•October 21, 2026

Roman Cornell on ABC Companies’ Evolution and the Future of Passenger Transportation

The company’s CEO discusses carrying forward a third-generation family legacy, ABC’s continued evolution in passenger transportation, support for increasingly complex fleets, and how technology and continued investment could help operators improve uptime.

Read More →
Ad Loading...
VIA Primo BRT bus riders
Bus•by Alex Roman•October 19, 2026

VIA Bus Ridership Grows 10.1% Through August 2026

San Antonio's VIA Metropolitan Transit reported the highest bus ridership growth among major Texas transit systems. Federal Transit Administration data ranked it second among the nation's 50 largest transit systems.

Read More →
Crowd waiting for LA Metro bus
Management•by Staff and News Reports•October 16, 2026

LA Metro September Ridership Climbs 3.9%, Led by Rail Growth

The agency recorded more than 27.2 million boardings, with rail ridership increasing 12.4% year over year and the D Line posting the largest gains.

Read More →
The Frontrunner XF on the APTA Expo show floor in 2026.
Paratransit•by Alex Roman•October 15, 2026

Frontrunner Bus Group Introduces XF Low-Floor Bus with Enhanced Accessibility

The new mid-sized bus features a full flat-floor design, eight-inch curbside step-in height, and zero-entry rear ramp to improve passenger access and operational flexibility.

Read More →
Ad Loading...
An overhead view of APTA EXPO's show floor.
Management•by Alex Roman•October 9, 2026

Scenes from APTA TRANSform & EXPO 2026

Transit leaders, manufacturers, and industry professionals gathered in Chicago to explore new technologies, share ideas, and discuss the future of public transportation.

Read More →
DRPA interns with program swag.
Management•by Alex Roman•October 1, 2026

More Than a Summer Job: Building the Next Generation of Transit Talent

The Delaware River Port Authority and PATCO have transformed their internship program into a hands-on professional development experience that introduces students to the breadth of transportation careers — and creates a pipeline for future employees.

Read More →
A shot of ENC's manufacturing facility
Zero Emissions•by Alex Roman•September 30, 2026

LA Metro Board Awards 220 Battery-Electric Bus Contract to ENC

The contract, which is the largest base award of battery-electric buses by a U.S. transit agency, will be built in Southern California, sustaining good jobs as LA prepares to welcome the world in 2028

Read More →
Ad Loading...
Help Shape the 2027 Public Transit Conference
Management•by Alex Roman•September 29, 2026

Public Transit Conference Returning to GFX in 2027, Call for Papers Now Open

The Call for Papers is now open, allowing transit agency professionals and industry experts to help shape the PTC educational program by submitting session ideas for consideration.

Read More →